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		<title>Comment on Microcredit &#8212; should this source of funding be broadly commercialized? by Isabel</title>
		<link>http://blogs.dalton.org/tewell/2010/03/01/the-growth-of-microcredit-should-this-source-of-funding-be-broadly-commercialized/comment-page-1/#comment-723</link>
		<dc:creator>Isabel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Mar 2010 12:23:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I fully agree with Nicky&#039;s comment that we should be &quot;attacking poverty&quot; from all angles -- this means both commercially and privately. 

First, to deal with commercial microfinancing: The article repeatedly  makes the point that in order to expand microfinance to a more vast array of people you need more credit. By allowing for commercial microfinance institutions to enter the capital market, they will be able to raise money without relying solely on donors. Thus, I believe that the commercialization of microfinance is important as a means of expanding the user-base.

Secondly, to deal with private microfinance firms: I believe that these firms are out to make a profit and therefore may be losing sight of  Yunus&#039;s original goal of alleviating poverty. Furthermore, larger, commercial firms seem to be helping the &quot;poor&quot; not the &quot;poorest.&quot; Local microfinancing banks/organizations are able to help the poorest of the poor. As Munro points out, &quot;My staff is not afraid, because they were born in the very same slum, and the thugs and thieves were their classmates in primary school.&quot; In order to reach the most desperate people you must be incredibly &quot;involved&quot; as Munro says. This means having a personal investment in the well-being of those you are lending to. 

Lastly, I agree with the individuals before me who have pointed out the benefit of social programs, focusing in areas such as education, health, sanitation, empowerment etc. These social programs are at the heart of this issue. To raise the poorest, most destitute people out of poverty, these people must have a minimum level of well-being that allows them to engage in economic activity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I fully agree with Nicky&#8217;s comment that we should be &#8220;attacking poverty&#8221; from all angles &#8212; this means both commercially and privately. </p>
<p>First, to deal with commercial microfinancing: The article repeatedly  makes the point that in order to expand microfinance to a more vast array of people you need more credit. By allowing for commercial microfinance institutions to enter the capital market, they will be able to raise money without relying solely on donors. Thus, I believe that the commercialization of microfinance is important as a means of expanding the user-base.</p>
<p>Secondly, to deal with private microfinance firms: I believe that these firms are out to make a profit and therefore may be losing sight of  Yunus&#8217;s original goal of alleviating poverty. Furthermore, larger, commercial firms seem to be helping the &#8220;poor&#8221; not the &#8220;poorest.&#8221; Local microfinancing banks/organizations are able to help the poorest of the poor. As Munro points out, &#8220;My staff is not afraid, because they were born in the very same slum, and the thugs and thieves were their classmates in primary school.&#8221; In order to reach the most desperate people you must be incredibly &#8220;involved&#8221; as Munro says. This means having a personal investment in the well-being of those you are lending to. </p>
<p>Lastly, I agree with the individuals before me who have pointed out the benefit of social programs, focusing in areas such as education, health, sanitation, empowerment etc. These social programs are at the heart of this issue. To raise the poorest, most destitute people out of poverty, these people must have a minimum level of well-being that allows them to engage in economic activity.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Microcredit &#8212; should this source of funding be broadly commercialized? by Nicholas Rinehart</title>
		<link>http://blogs.dalton.org/tewell/2010/03/01/the-growth-of-microcredit-should-this-source-of-funding-be-broadly-commercialized/comment-page-1/#comment-722</link>
		<dc:creator>Nicholas Rinehart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Mar 2010 07:29:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One idea I took away from the article - which was related by one of the quoted experts or researchers - is that we should be currently attacking poverty with microcredit/microfinance from all angles. That is, we should utilize both commercial and non-profit sources for the time being. Although commercialized microcredit seems to work on the macro level, I found it especially telling how individual contact with clients and exposure to their living conditions can really benefit those borrowing money. It also seems like the social programs advocated by nonprofit lenders aimed at education - in areas like health, sanitation, domestic life, self-esteem, etc. - are extremely beneficial to those in poverty (although these outreach initiatives might seem, from a macro-economic standpoint, unnecessary).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One idea I took away from the article &#8211; which was related by one of the quoted experts or researchers &#8211; is that we should be currently attacking poverty with microcredit/microfinance from all angles. That is, we should utilize both commercial and non-profit sources for the time being. Although commercialized microcredit seems to work on the macro level, I found it especially telling how individual contact with clients and exposure to their living conditions can really benefit those borrowing money. It also seems like the social programs advocated by nonprofit lenders aimed at education &#8211; in areas like health, sanitation, domestic life, self-esteem, etc. &#8211; are extremely beneficial to those in poverty (although these outreach initiatives might seem, from a macro-economic standpoint, unnecessary).</p>
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		<title>Comment on Microcredit &#8212; should this source of funding be broadly commercialized? by Vivian Poon</title>
		<link>http://blogs.dalton.org/tewell/2010/03/01/the-growth-of-microcredit-should-this-source-of-funding-be-broadly-commercialized/comment-page-1/#comment-721</link>
		<dc:creator>Vivian Poon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Mar 2010 04:26:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also, I was watching a show on USA and there was a commercial about microcredit. It was about the person who started the website www.kiva.org. It is a fascinating program creating a world wide community. Just thought it would be interesting to share.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also, I was watching a show on USA and there was a commercial about microcredit. It was about the person who started the website <a href="http://www.kiva.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.kiva.org</a>. It is a fascinating program creating a world wide community. Just thought it would be interesting to share.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Microcredit &#8212; should this source of funding be broadly commercialized? by Vivian Poon</title>
		<link>http://blogs.dalton.org/tewell/2010/03/01/the-growth-of-microcredit-should-this-source-of-funding-be-broadly-commercialized/comment-page-1/#comment-720</link>
		<dc:creator>Vivian Poon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Mar 2010 04:23:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Jesse&#039;s point that commercialization of microcredit can change people&#039;s views on the intention of the programs.  With commercialization, it seems as though profit is more desirable than quality.  It also shows a sense of exploitation.  It is very easy for people to feel exploited through the commercialization of microcredit and feel like people are exploiting the developing world.  

In my opinion, I believe the commercialization should be kept at a minimum in order to preserve the original nature of microcredit; to bring up the bottom billion and have the poorest people live a sustainable life.  I feel as though microcredit is linked to the idea that nations share a similar fate. If one fails, it can drag others down.  Although commercializing microcredit will still in a way help the poor build their own businesses and depend on themselves, the profit that comes out of the funding that might not necessarily go back into the program makes it hard to support.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Jesse&#8217;s point that commercialization of microcredit can change people&#8217;s views on the intention of the programs.  With commercialization, it seems as though profit is more desirable than quality.  It also shows a sense of exploitation.  It is very easy for people to feel exploited through the commercialization of microcredit and feel like people are exploiting the developing world.  </p>
<p>In my opinion, I believe the commercialization should be kept at a minimum in order to preserve the original nature of microcredit; to bring up the bottom billion and have the poorest people live a sustainable life.  I feel as though microcredit is linked to the idea that nations share a similar fate. If one fails, it can drag others down.  Although commercializing microcredit will still in a way help the poor build their own businesses and depend on themselves, the profit that comes out of the funding that might not necessarily go back into the program makes it hard to support.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Microcredit &#8212; should this source of funding be broadly commercialized? by Matthew</title>
		<link>http://blogs.dalton.org/tewell/2010/03/01/the-growth-of-microcredit-should-this-source-of-funding-be-broadly-commercialized/comment-page-1/#comment-719</link>
		<dc:creator>Matthew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Mar 2010 04:03:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I believe that microfinance should be commercialized.  As the article mentions, some microfinance institutions have concluded that &quot;commercialization was the only way microfinance could serve large numbers of people, because commercial enterprises could tap the capital markets for the funds they needed to grow.&quot;  Commercialization makes it easier for microfinance institutions to find capital because it is easier to find someone looking to invest for profit than to find someone looking to donate for charity.  Further, if people are looking to invest for their own gain, I imagine they are likely to invest greater sums of money than if they are just donating for charity.  

I do think that it is generally morally reprehensible for one to take advantage of the poor for one&#039;s own gain.  Thus, perhaps, nonprofits are a more moral way to help the poor. However, in the case of a commercialized microfinance industry, it seems that both the poor and the investors can benefit.  In my opinion, there is nothing wrong with profiting from an investment in microfinance, as long as doing so does not cause the poor to be short-changed; there is nothing wrong with making the rich richer, if doing so makes the poor richer, as well.  

The article does mention that some people fear that, if microfinance is commercialized, loans will be given only to the &quot;less poor,&quot; who are a safer investment.  I do not think that this is an issue, though.  If microfinance institutions recognize that &quot;credit alone is not a panacea&quot; and introduce other initiatives to help the &quot;very poor,&quot; such as &quot;education and health care,&quot; it seems that all impoverished people can benefit--the less poor and the very poor.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe that microfinance should be commercialized.  As the article mentions, some microfinance institutions have concluded that &#8220;commercialization was the only way microfinance could serve large numbers of people, because commercial enterprises could tap the capital markets for the funds they needed to grow.&#8221;  Commercialization makes it easier for microfinance institutions to find capital because it is easier to find someone looking to invest for profit than to find someone looking to donate for charity.  Further, if people are looking to invest for their own gain, I imagine they are likely to invest greater sums of money than if they are just donating for charity.  </p>
<p>I do think that it is generally morally reprehensible for one to take advantage of the poor for one&#8217;s own gain.  Thus, perhaps, nonprofits are a more moral way to help the poor. However, in the case of a commercialized microfinance industry, it seems that both the poor and the investors can benefit.  In my opinion, there is nothing wrong with profiting from an investment in microfinance, as long as doing so does not cause the poor to be short-changed; there is nothing wrong with making the rich richer, if doing so makes the poor richer, as well.  </p>
<p>The article does mention that some people fear that, if microfinance is commercialized, loans will be given only to the &#8220;less poor,&#8221; who are a safer investment.  I do not think that this is an issue, though.  If microfinance institutions recognize that &#8220;credit alone is not a panacea&#8221; and introduce other initiatives to help the &#8220;very poor,&#8221; such as &#8220;education and health care,&#8221; it seems that all impoverished people can benefit&#8211;the less poor and the very poor.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Microcredit &#8212; should this source of funding be broadly commercialized? by Heidi</title>
		<link>http://blogs.dalton.org/tewell/2010/03/01/the-growth-of-microcredit-should-this-source-of-funding-be-broadly-commercialized/comment-page-1/#comment-718</link>
		<dc:creator>Heidi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Mar 2010 03:55:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would have to agree with Jesse that commercialization of microcredit could be harmful  to those who would benefit from it. While at model congress, there was a bill being debated about having the U.S. extend millions in microcredit to Somalian citizens as a deterrent to piracy in Somalia. This extended into a debate about the virtues of microfinance on a micro level; I think that commercialization needs to happen in order to create competition to lower the interest rates. The problem, however, as we see, is the change in intention and the possibility of profit. If these quasi-banks (like the one in Mexico or Bolivia) can garner profit while maintaining transparency, steering clear of corruption, and attracting investors by ensuring they&#039;ll reap profits, I think it could be successful. (I do recognize that this is highly idealistic.) I guess I&#039;d like to leave it at the not-for-profit level. 

In addition, the most successful of these microcreditors seems to be the ones in Kenya and Bolivia, because besides focusing on the actual loans, they also focus on the circumstances that surround the poor with which they deal. This success would be lost, I think, if microcredit were given at a macro level.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would have to agree with Jesse that commercialization of microcredit could be harmful  to those who would benefit from it. While at model congress, there was a bill being debated about having the U.S. extend millions in microcredit to Somalian citizens as a deterrent to piracy in Somalia. This extended into a debate about the virtues of microfinance on a micro level; I think that commercialization needs to happen in order to create competition to lower the interest rates. The problem, however, as we see, is the change in intention and the possibility of profit. If these quasi-banks (like the one in Mexico or Bolivia) can garner profit while maintaining transparency, steering clear of corruption, and attracting investors by ensuring they&#8217;ll reap profits, I think it could be successful. (I do recognize that this is highly idealistic.) I guess I&#8217;d like to leave it at the not-for-profit level. </p>
<p>In addition, the most successful of these microcreditors seems to be the ones in Kenya and Bolivia, because besides focusing on the actual loans, they also focus on the circumstances that surround the poor with which they deal. This success would be lost, I think, if microcredit were given at a macro level.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Microcredit &#8212; should this source of funding be broadly commercialized? by Abigail Hahn</title>
		<link>http://blogs.dalton.org/tewell/2010/03/01/the-growth-of-microcredit-should-this-source-of-funding-be-broadly-commercialized/comment-page-1/#comment-717</link>
		<dc:creator>Abigail Hahn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Mar 2010 02:53:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Responding to what Jesse said, I agree with many aspects of his argument but I don&#039;t see anything wrong really with groups or individuals other than governments and non-for-profits taking part in the field despite questionable motives.  It is true that the mentality does shift from alleviating poverty to profit and this could cause issues between the moderately poor and bottom billion. But it seems to me that whether or not motives or correct, microcredit could be potentially very helpful to the poor.

The issue that we face is that it would be very difficult to commercialize because of its risks as Michael said. I think there could be benefits to its commercialization, but I think it is unlikely.  This is because most people need intensives and security; they are unwilling to invest money without a guarantee of return. Thus, it most likely will be governments, non-for-profits and wealthy benefactors who lead this filed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Responding to what Jesse said, I agree with many aspects of his argument but I don&#8217;t see anything wrong really with groups or individuals other than governments and non-for-profits taking part in the field despite questionable motives.  It is true that the mentality does shift from alleviating poverty to profit and this could cause issues between the moderately poor and bottom billion. But it seems to me that whether or not motives or correct, microcredit could be potentially very helpful to the poor.</p>
<p>The issue that we face is that it would be very difficult to commercialize because of its risks as Michael said. I think there could be benefits to its commercialization, but I think it is unlikely.  This is because most people need intensives and security; they are unwilling to invest money without a guarantee of return. Thus, it most likely will be governments, non-for-profits and wealthy benefactors who lead this filed.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Microcredit &#8212; should this source of funding be broadly commercialized? by Samuel Shapiro</title>
		<link>http://blogs.dalton.org/tewell/2010/03/01/the-growth-of-microcredit-should-this-source-of-funding-be-broadly-commercialized/comment-page-1/#comment-716</link>
		<dc:creator>Samuel Shapiro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Mar 2010 02:49:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If we are to follow Yunus&#039;s ideal, then commercialization seems to be out of the question.  The way I see it, though, is that you either need to continue to be lucky have very generous benefactors or else concede that commercialization, at least to some degree, is necessary for the survival of microcredit.  Due to the nature of microcredit and the risks and chances involved, it seems like an unsustainable industry as it currently is.  Profit will be necessary.  As a result the question to me is not about commercialization, as I see that as inevitable, but rather how to hold onto Yunus&#039;s goal for microcredit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If we are to follow Yunus&#8217;s ideal, then commercialization seems to be out of the question.  The way I see it, though, is that you either need to continue to be lucky have very generous benefactors or else concede that commercialization, at least to some degree, is necessary for the survival of microcredit.  Due to the nature of microcredit and the risks and chances involved, it seems like an unsustainable industry as it currently is.  Profit will be necessary.  As a result the question to me is not about commercialization, as I see that as inevitable, but rather how to hold onto Yunus&#8217;s goal for microcredit.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Microcredit &#8212; should this source of funding be broadly commercialized? by Jesse</title>
		<link>http://blogs.dalton.org/tewell/2010/03/01/the-growth-of-microcredit-should-this-source-of-funding-be-broadly-commercialized/comment-page-1/#comment-715</link>
		<dc:creator>Jesse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Mar 2010 02:31:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think this is a very difficult question, and having read nothing on the issue besides this article, I don&#039;t have too much confidence in my opinions. That said, I feel as though the broad commercialization of microcredit might be detrimental to the ultimate purpose of such programs; or, rather, commercialization would redefine the ultimate purpose. When emphasis is placed on profit rather than the alleviation of poverty, the economic mentality shifts. We see the &quot;poor&quot; getting far easier access to credit than the &quot;poorest&quot; because probability dictates that their loan payments will result in a higher profit.

Commercialization has definitely had its benefits, not least of which is far higher engagement and interest in the sector. However, I agree with Michael and Elizabeth that governmental organizations and non-for-profit groups should continue to play a major (if not the leading) role in the field. In so doing, they will continue to focus attention on what is, or should be, the heart of the issue: alleviating poverty. Those programs that incorporate education and healthcare programs best advance this goal and should be kept in the spotlight. Maybe philanthropy skews the statistics regarding which organizations are more self-sustaining, but I think that is a necessary consequence of keeping non-for-profit microcredit organizations afloat.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think this is a very difficult question, and having read nothing on the issue besides this article, I don&#8217;t have too much confidence in my opinions. That said, I feel as though the broad commercialization of microcredit might be detrimental to the ultimate purpose of such programs; or, rather, commercialization would redefine the ultimate purpose. When emphasis is placed on profit rather than the alleviation of poverty, the economic mentality shifts. We see the &#8220;poor&#8221; getting far easier access to credit than the &#8220;poorest&#8221; because probability dictates that their loan payments will result in a higher profit.</p>
<p>Commercialization has definitely had its benefits, not least of which is far higher engagement and interest in the sector. However, I agree with Michael and Elizabeth that governmental organizations and non-for-profit groups should continue to play a major (if not the leading) role in the field. In so doing, they will continue to focus attention on what is, or should be, the heart of the issue: alleviating poverty. Those programs that incorporate education and healthcare programs best advance this goal and should be kept in the spotlight. Maybe philanthropy skews the statistics regarding which organizations are more self-sustaining, but I think that is a necessary consequence of keeping non-for-profit microcredit organizations afloat.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Microcredit &#8212; should this source of funding be broadly commercialized? by Elizabeth Odom</title>
		<link>http://blogs.dalton.org/tewell/2010/03/01/the-growth-of-microcredit-should-this-source-of-funding-be-broadly-commercialized/comment-page-1/#comment-714</link>
		<dc:creator>Elizabeth Odom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Mar 2010 01:46:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I believe that microcredit should be commercialized to a degree: commercialized, just not broadly.  I would agree with Michael in the idea that the large risks of lending to the extremely needy would limit the extent to which microfinance would expand commercially.  I think if microcredit were to do so, then lending would be limited to the “less poor”.  The real value of microcredit is as an asset to the people in extreme poverty in the world, and the broad commercialization would eliminate that aspect.  It would still be extremely helpful for those “less poor” to be able to attain loans, but if done broadly, it might also create a detrimental gap, isolating the bottom billion.  I believe that lowering the interest rates by some amount of commercial competition is also good, considering how high some interest rates cited in the article are.  Some amount of competition would help to eliminate the monopolies held by some organizations.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe that microcredit should be commercialized to a degree: commercialized, just not broadly.  I would agree with Michael in the idea that the large risks of lending to the extremely needy would limit the extent to which microfinance would expand commercially.  I think if microcredit were to do so, then lending would be limited to the “less poor”.  The real value of microcredit is as an asset to the people in extreme poverty in the world, and the broad commercialization would eliminate that aspect.  It would still be extremely helpful for those “less poor” to be able to attain loans, but if done broadly, it might also create a detrimental gap, isolating the bottom billion.  I believe that lowering the interest rates by some amount of commercial competition is also good, considering how high some interest rates cited in the article are.  Some amount of competition would help to eliminate the monopolies held by some organizations.</p>
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